need help on where to put numbers

[hot98hd]

I just bought a 33 outlaw i had to get the boat documented i was just wondering if someone with an outlaw could tell me where they put there numbers in the inside of the boat.Also where there boat name and hailing port ended up.Thanks for any info.

[OUTLAW 29]

My boat's documented name is "Baja". I did that so I wouldn't have to put a name on. Since it already comes with decals that say "Baja", I was good-to-go. I've never been a fan of names on go-fast boats. I'm still illegal though cause I never put a "hailing port" on.

[MR BAJA]

We put them on the back wall under the engine hatch....as long as they are visible and on the boat somewhere you should be good to go.

MR BAJA

[ckmansell]

I have a 33. I have mine on the side just under the throttles and shifters about 3 inches off the floor. (Down to the right of where the drivers ankles are.) I have also seen them under the motor hatch too.

[Baja340SF]

Taken from the Coast Guard Doc site! :


HOW DO I MARK MY VESSEL?
The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded of the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area.

The name and hailing port of a recreational vessel must be marked together on some clearly visible exterior part of the hull. The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern. All markings may be made by any means and materials that result in durable markings and must be at least four inches in height, made in clearly legible letters of the Latin alphabet or Arabic or Roman numerals. The "hailing port" must include both a place and a State, Territory, or possession of in the United States. The state may be abbreviated.

[hot98hd]

Thanks for all the help when they say the numbers have to be permanitly fixed does that mean they have to be paited or or could you use vinal letters?

[OUTLAW 29]

I think the best way is to take a fiberglass panel and either etch or paint the numbers into it. Then use epoxy to stick the panel to the inside of the engine compartment. This will satisfy the C.G. and still allow you to remove it (even though it won't be easy)

[bajatroublemaker]

What do you mean by documented? Is it for insurance reasons?

[hp500]

hot98hd
I Documented my 36 Outlaw. I went to a sign shop and they made me a plate with the numbers on it. I mounted it on the lip in the engine room just under the sun pad with 4 stainless screws. As for port of. The sign shop made them out of vinyl. I put them under the swim platform and the exhaust tips. I have pictures posted in engines and drives of the port of. If you like I will take some of the I D numbers and post them.
Just let me know. The numbers & port of are net and clean I think it looks real good :skull

[hp500]

Chuck
Documentation is wear you register your boat with government and you don't pay property tax every year I pad 600 dollars to document my boat.I don't have a number on the bow my numbers are in the engine room and the port of is on the transom. I don't know all the facts my wife takes care of that stuff. I think some one else might do better than me but I do know that it saves me a lot of money:skull

[hot98hd]

If you could post some pics or send them to me of them that would be great thanks.hot98hd@aol.com

[hp500]

hot98hd
I will take some in the morning and post them for you. I think Blake is on tour now so I don't know when they will get posted.:skull

[Seize n Ticket]

Our numbers are under the hatch, so when it is raised you can clearly see them and they are in vinyl. I have never had them checked so I am hoping they are fine. That is how the dealer advised to put them on. As far as documenting a boat it is to alleviate paying sales tax not personal property tax.

[hp500]

hot98hd
Hey I just uploaded pictures of my numbers and transom with the port of. I will put them in engines and drives.
Hope this helps Hp500 :skull

[hot98hd]

thanks for all the help i will check the pics out when they get posted.

[BDannecker]

hot98hd,
I had my CG ID milled in a piece of aluminum with a ball end mill. I then painted it in a red "anodized metal" finish and laid in black paint with a syringe. I uploaded a couple of pictures.

Bruce...

[jmc2135]

Documentation is wear you register your boat with government and you don't pay property tax every year I pad 600 dollars to document my boat

HP500 What do you mean by paying property tax on a boat? I am trying to learn all about these nice little legal loopholes for boat owners. It seems that all the big money boats are documented. There must be a reason for this that benefits the owners.

[hp500]

[ckmansell]

I am sure he meant "sales" tax and not property "tax." It would be illegal to take advantage of the state by them not knowing you owned a boat.;)

See, if it is not registered with the state, then they do not know you own it. Therefore, one could get away with not claiming it as personal property owned and avoid paying personal property tax on the boat every year. However I am sure no one here would ever do that.:winkgreen

The sales tax issue is legal and is discussed at length in the financial forum.
Hope this helps

[missouri]

Perhaps because documentation has been around as long as recreational boating, there are some myths that persist. One Big Myth: that documentation is some sort of exemption from paying state sales, use or personal property taxes. It's not. Willis said his office does not routinely forward information to states on boats being documented; the states must request it. If they do, Willis said the Coast Guard will supply the information. Some are more diligent than others (and even send state employees to West Virginia to examine documentation records) and do so to assess whatever taxes may be due on vessels homeported in their state waters.

There are, however, 25 states that do not require documented vessels to obtain a state registration, however certain taxes may still be assessed. If a state does require a documented vessel to register, they normally do not require that it carry state numbers because the vessel already has federal numbers. They can, however, require a state decal.

[jmc2135]

I guess that would explain why the Big Boys (one million plus) in Chicago have hailing ports out of the country. Could you imagine the state tax on those boats? I guess taxes are only meant to be paid by the average working stiff like me:beathead

[firehill19]

Heard last week from some "cruiser" owners down at Clear Lake that the law might be (or has already) changing in Texas. Don't know the specifics but they were talking about having to come up with sales tax on their boats. They weren't happy!

[BDannecker]

When I registered my boat last March/April in Texas, I had to show proof of sales tax before the CG would document the vessel.

[firehill19]

The cruisers i was talking about are documented in other states. Like Delaware. To get away from paying the sales tax in Texas.

[NEWOUTLAW]

To get most of the boat loan, we had to document ours. The boat was a 2000, we bought in December 2001 from a guy in Tennesse who never even registered it, apparently they dont have to register their boat or trailer. We had to pay taxes to the Tx wildlife for the boat, and taxes and registration to the DPS for the trailer out of our own pockets.:x