So I asked the Ebay seller a question...

[Wayne Pennell]

So I was reading this guys ad and it says this 2002 Baja 25 OL, with 496 HO, will do 75-76 MPH. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-Baja-Outlaw-25-SST-496-Mag-H-O-Loaded-Out-240hrs_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c0cc092cbQQitemZ120473031371QQptZPowerQ5fMotorboats

So I ask him a question....

Dear giger80,

Are you sure the speed is 75-76? I have seen and been in many of these with a 496HO and only saw, maybe 66.


- waynep769

His response was...

Dear waynep769,

No I decided to come up with some # out of the top of my head! Man I had a 21' Hammer that would do 68.9. It runs mid 70's, If you are interested bid, if not, find someone else to bother.

- giger80

I didn't think I was bothering anyone just asked a question. Was I out of line?

[3030hunter]

Wayne, maybe he saw mid 70's on the wish o' meter, or maybe he means behind his truck. :onhishead Seems like a nice guy, I wonder if he is a member on TBM.

[j.lucas]

What a ass, you should make up another ebay account and be the highest bidder then respond with a similar response when he wants his $$$

[Cop an Attitude]

Wayne, If he is not a member! It would frigging hallrious for everyone to sent him the same question you did>>>>:24: :24: :24:

THAT WOULD BE BOHTERING HIM!!!!!!! He earned it.

[Wayne Pennell]

Wayne, If he is not a member! It would frigging hallrious for everyone to sent him the same question you did>>>>:24: :24: :24:

THAT WOULD BE BOHTERING HIM!!!!!!! He earned it.

I looked for his boat for sale on here with nothing so not sure if he is a member or not. Ask the question, cause if we dont someone will think they are getting a mid seventies boat which it's not. We have exchanged a few other emails and he says the speed is due to the lower elevation in Louisiana.

[Cop an Attitude]

I looked for his boat for sale on here with nothing so not sure if he is a member or not. Ask the question, cause if we dont someone will think they are getting a mid seventies boat which it's not. We have exchanged a few other emails and he says the speed is due to the lower elevation in Louisiana.

Will do! Lets see what he tells me.???

[Twin-Kyle]

We have exchanged a few other emails and he says the speed is due to the lower elevation in Louisiana.

Bullchit!!!:ecomcity:

[Cop an Attitude]

Questions I just asked:

The boat looks very clean... but i just have acouple of questions..???



1. what does the cuddy look like?



2. what prop are you running?



3. with the speeds you have posted, they seem a little High???? is the speed with a GPS speedo or a water injected???

[Wayne Pennell]

Questions I just asked:

The boat looks very clean... but i just have acouple of questions..???



1. what does the cuddy look like?



2. what prop are you running?



3. with the speeds you have posted, they seem a little High???? is the speed with a GPS speedo or a water injected???

We'll see what he has to say. We have exchanged a few more emails with the same story and him asking me why he would lie about something like that. I just am wondering why he would say it will do 75-76?? Is it really his boat? The price does seem to be in the ball park though but it is a great price for a 75 MPH 25 OL.

[642mx]

Whats a stock 25OL have for top end? Did they all have 425 horse?

[642mx]

We have exchanged a few other emails and he says the speed is due to the lower elevation in Louisiana.

There might be some merit to this... but I wouldn't think so on an EFI engine. For example, this summer while visiting Table Rock lake my carbed boat picked up 200 rpm and about 2 mph... same load and fuel level as always... the only reason I can come up with it there must have been an elevation difference.

[Wayne Pennell]

There might be some merit to this... but I wouldn't think so on an EFI engine. For example, this summer while visiting Table Rock lake my carbed boat picked up 200 rpm and about 2 mph... same load and fuel level as always... the only reason I can come up with it there must have been an elevation difference.

Ok, I'll give him 2-3MPH for elevation change (My boating is done at roughly 500 FT above sea level)......so, my 425 HP 25 OL can get 64 MPH in ideal conditions and give him the 2-3MPH for 500 Ft (which is alot I believe) so that is 66-67 MPH.....a far cry from the advertised 75-76 with a stock 25 OL with a 425 HP HO.

[3030hunter]

My boat is stock and it will do 75-76 all day long too. On the interstate. :24:

[642mx]

My boat is stock and it will do 75-76 all day long too. On the interstate. :24:


I hear ya.... my boat went 85 mph once before on the interstate... :headbang2

[642mx]

Ok, I'll give him 2-3MPH for elevation change (My boating is done at roughly 500 FT above sea level)......so, my 425 HP 25 OL can get 64 MPH in ideal conditions and give him the 2-3MPH for 500 Ft (which is alot I believe) so that is 66-67 MPH.....a far cry from the advertised 75-76 with a stock 25 OL with a 425 HP HO.

If a stock 25OL runs 64, he's definitely full of shit with reporting 75-76...

[Quicknloud]

No reserve means if if goes to cheap I will have a friend "buy it"

[jimrik]

Don't take this wrong Wayne cause you had a legit question, but the guy is probably sick of dealing with people and the idiot questions. I hate selling things just because of the idiots out there. I just went through it with the whipple. I don't have to sell it just moving into a different style of boating and sold off the 95 and am parting out the project. Well after 38 watchers and about 500+ emails of BS not one taker. So it will sit on a self and rot at this point along with all the other stuff. So again I don't think it was so much an attack but more of frustration. Or he could just be an A$$

[ckmansell]

While I do not think it will run 75-76, unless he is talking about the speedometer, which a lot of average boaters do, not junkies like us. LOL...

I do think your boat seems a tad slow. I am just basing this off of what 275's will do and what the 25's would do with the old 502/415hp.

I have seen a solid 71-72 on many stock 25's with the old 502/415hp many many times. One would think the new HO with 425hp would do at least that.

And yes, I am talking about the factory liquid filled speedo. (which are usually pretty darn accurate by the way)

[Wayne Pennell]

I do think your boat seems a tad slow. I am just basing this off of what 275's will do and what the 25's would do with the old 502/415hp.



I wish it were faster, I am going to look for an Extension Box and -2" Shorty in the off season along with labbed prop to help out. I was thinking when I bought it, it would be a solid 66 MPH boat but seems to only be a solid 63 MPH boat in it's current setup.

[TWIN-SPINS]

guys lets stay grounded here,,,its a 63-65 m.p.h. boat period,,,if you still like it buy it,,,

[$hooter]

Well...I decided to play with him and so far...below is what I have received.

Dear giger80,

I have a life dude...trying to maybe help you sell your boat and not lie about it. I have a 1989 Baja and I know exactly how fast it will go and it will outrun yours and that is no bullshit. Tell you what...lets run our boats for PINKS. You are only a couple of hundred miles away, but if you think your boat is faster...lets run them and then you can have 2 boats.

- paulslonaker




From: giger80
To: paulslonaker
Subject: Re: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 06:30:00 PDT


Dear paulslonaker,

Get a life

- giger80




From: paulslonaker
To: giger80
Subject: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-10-09 22:00:36 PDT


Dear giger80,

No bids...wanna know why? It's because everyone that knows 25 Outlaws knows that the boat wont run that fast...unless you are pulling it on the trailer. This boat will run mid 60's...why lie...makes people wonder what else is wrong with it.

- paulslonaker











http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/120473031371.jpg (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120473031371&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123)2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120473031371&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123)Item Id:120473031371End time:Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDTBuyer:paulslonaker (http://myworld.ebay.com/paulslonaker?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1181) (0 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&&userid=paulslonaker&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1183))0.0% Positive FeedbackMember since Jun-15-04 in United StatesLocation: TX, United StatesListing Status:This message was sent while the listing was active.

[Cop an Attitude]

Well, Here is what he has responded to me with..............................................................................................

Oh, he has not responded :24: :24: :24:

[Cop an Attitude]

And by the way guys.......... He is full of SHIT saying it will do that....... I just sold my 2001 25 OL with the same set up......... 66 mph with 1/2 tank of fuel and 1 person...... avg was 63-64 with wife and cooler..........

And I am at the same altitude as he is.............

[3030hunter]

Bottom line. There is no way a 25 Outlaw with a stock 496 HO mag will do 76 mph. More like 66 mph. The guy is smokin some good weed. :smokin:

[Twin-Kyle]

Bottom line. There is no way a 25 Outlaw with a stock 496 HO mag will do 76 mph. More like 66 mph. The guy is smokin some good weed. :smokin:Mine runs 65 with a light load. High 63 to low 64 with a decent load..all GPS speeds. I only have a 496 mag. The labbed prop really helped it out. Before the labbing, mid 63 was the best I could get.

[Wayne Pennell]

Mine runs 65 with a light load. High 63 to low 64 with a decent load..all GPS speeds. I only have a 496 mag. The labbed prop really helped it out. Before the labbing, mid 63 was the best I could get.

It seems odd we run the same speed, one with a mag and one with the HO.....gotta be some issue with mine some where....plugs?

[ckmansell]

It seems odd we run the same speed, one with a mag and one with the HO.....gotta be some issue with mine some where....plugs?

That is what I was trying to get at without insulting you. I think yours should be a tad faster. If you do plugs, also do wires and cap as well. It can really make a difference. If it doesn't take a look at the RPM's, is it doing ok there?

[Twin-Kyle]

It seems odd we run the same speed, one with a mag and one with the HO.....gotta be some issue with mine some where....plugs?
You run a 4 blade right?? That's it. You will lose some top end with a 4 blade. I run a labbed Mirage plus 23P. Brett worked his magic and that is what I ended up with.

[Quicknloud]

What do you know.......... the so called high bidder has zero feedback and has only bid on one item ever. :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: Fake

[$hooter]

I have been rubbing his ass raw and he is going to report me to the E-Bay cops for harassament. OOOOOOOOO...can I come over to one of you guys house for a few days and hide out so that they dont spank me?

[Cop an Attitude]

I have been rubbing his ass raw and he is going to report me to the E-Bay cops for harassament. OOOOOOOOO...can I come over to one of you guys house for a few days and hide out so that they dont spank me?

Shooter you can come to my house and hide out.......just bring a pair of 540's for the lodging fee.......:24: :24: :24:

The guy will not answer my emails at all....... :evil_lol: :ass3:

[$hooter]

Shooter you can come to my house and hide out.......just bring a pair of 540's for the lodging fee.......:24: :24: :24:

The guy will not answer my emails at all....... :evil_lol: :ass3:

:24: :24: If that little red-neck coon-ass GURL sicks the e-bays cops on me...I will be there. I will just die if I cant go visit e-bay...I mean really...the horror of it all knowing that I might get in trouble with e-bay ...
...waaaaaaaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaa :violin:

I think I might go tell my Mommie too.

[wooowooo]

Ok, so I am the owner of the Baja on Ebay, the boat has done 76 mph, it was done on the gps but by the boat speedometer. Not sure why the hell we are making such a big deal out of this. Why would I lie about the speed. Anyone wants to come take a ride and let me prove it I will be more than happy.

[Twin-Kyle]

Ok, so I am the owner of the Baja on Ebay, the boat has done 76 mph, it was done on the gps but by the boat speedometer. Not sure why the hell we are making such a big deal out of this. Why would I lie about the speed. Anyone wants to come take a ride and let me prove it I will be more than happy.
Why is it a big deal you ask...its because 76 MPH is about 10 MPH more then I would say any 25 Outlaw will run in stock form. A potential buyer that has little knowledge about Baja and 25 Outlaw will be extremely pissed when they find out the true speed of the boat. It's false information and ethically wrong just to sell your boat.

Let me ask you this, will you take the boat back with full money refund when the buyer finds out the boat will only run 66-67 MPH?? I highly doubt it.

I have extensive knowledge with the 25 Outlaw and the 496 engine. My mag will run only 200 RPM less then your HO and with it perfectly proped for speed I can only get 65 MPH GPS with it.
I call TOTAL B.S. with what you say in regards to speed of your boat..period.

I also just noticed that you have it in forward gear while fully trimmed up.:eek: Do you have any idea how much strain you are placing on the shift cable?? I see a shift cable replacement in the near future..

It would also make me question what else you lied about...:noidea:
Its a boat I would definitely stay away from.

[SHIP4BRAINS]

My friends 05 25ol with 496 ho will NOT hit 70mph on gps. I think he claimed 67 gps, almost 70 on the speedo with a 24P B1 prop.

[3030hunter]

Ok, so I am the owner of the Baja on Ebay, the boat has done 76 mph, it was done on the gps but by the boat speedometer. Not sure why the hell we are making such a big deal out of this. Why would I lie about the speed. Anyone wants to come take a ride and let me prove it I will be more than happy.
WooooooWoooooo, welcome to TeamBajaMarine!! Don't go away mad, come on back and play awhile. :24:

[wooowooo]

So What do you want? A picture a video?Why is it a big deal you ask...its because 76 MPH is about 10 MPH more then I would say any 25 Outlaw will run in stock form. A potential buyer that has little knowledge about Baja and 25 Outlaw will be extremely pissed when they find out the true speed of the boat. It's false information and ethically wrong just to sell your boat.

Let me ask you this, will you take the boat back with full money refund when the buyer finds out the boat will only run 66-67 MPH?? I highly doubt it.

I have extensive knowledge with the 25 Outlaw and the 496 engine. My mag will run only 200 RPM less then your HO and with it perfectly proped for speed I can only get 65 MPH GPS with it.
I call TOTAL B.S. with what you say in regards to speed of your boat..period.

I also just noticed that you have it in forward gear while fully trimmed up.:eek: Do you have any idea how much strain you are placing on the shift cable?? I see a shift cable replacement in the near future..

It would also make me question what else you lied about...:noidea:
Its a boat I would definitely stay away from.

[emilsr]

Ok, so I am the owner of the Baja on Ebay, the boat has done 76 mph, it was done on the gps but by the boat speedometer. Not sure why the hell we are making such a big deal out of this. Why would I lie about the speed. Anyone wants to come take a ride and let me prove it I will be more than happy.

I'd believe that. We've seen 70+ on our speedo.

What we've got here is a group of boat nerds that know exactly how fast each others' boats will go. ;) Welcome to the club.

[$hooter]

Here is the last email crap I got back from "Sweet-Cheeks". I knew he couldnt stand it and would show up on our porch. Open bet here...$5000.00 says the boat wont run 70 gps.

Look man, it is a buy it now or make offer, you do not make bids on this type. I have had 7 offers. Lay off

- giger80
Did this answer your question? If not, let the seller know. http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/buttons/btnRespond.gif</IMG> (http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?M2MContact&item=120473031371&requested=giger80&qid=682013680&redirect=0&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1159)




From: paulslonaker
To: giger80
Subject: You've received an answer to your question about item 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 20:00:04 PDT


Dear giger80,

Turn me over to anyone you want you LIEING ass...I dont give a shit. You make it sound like e-bay is going to come spank me...oooooo...I am soooooo scared. You have no bids LIAR and you have no one wanting to buy your boat except some of us messing with you on TBM. You are great entertainment dude.

- paulslonaker




From: giger80
To: paulslonaker
Subject: Re: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 18:41:11 PDT


Dear paulslonaker,

Man how about this Mr Ebay Patrol, carry your a$$, email me again and I will turn you over to ebay for harassment. Just so you know, I have a buyer pending, a$$hole.

- giger80




From: paulslonaker
To: giger80
Subject: You've received an answer to your question about item 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 18:08:31 PDT


Dear giger80,

I will stick my REAL & FAST Baja up my ass and you can try to sell yours, but you better get all your lies in a row on the boat because if I bought it and it wouldnt run 75/76, I would have your liein ass in a court house facing fraud charges. You published the speed stupid, so you have opened the door for someone to own you. Not ONLY are you a LIAR...your just too simple minded to know it...lmfao here and so is everyone else on www.teambajamarine.com .

- paulslonaker




From: giger80
To: paulslonaker
Subject: Re: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 13:44:23 PDT


Dear paulslonaker,

Tell me exactly how you are trying to sell my boat. I tell you what, how about you take your 1989 Baja and stick it up your a$$.

- giger80




From: paulslonaker
To: giger80
Subject: You've received an answer to your question about item 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 10:13:20 PDT


Dear giger80,

I have a life dude...trying to maybe help you sell your boat and not lie about it. I have a 1989 Baja and I know exactly how fast it will go and it will outrun yours and that is no bullshit. Tell you what...lets run our boats for PINKS. You are only a couple of hundred miles away, but if you think your boat is faster...lets run them and then you can have 2 boats.

- paulslonaker




From: giger80
To: paulslonaker
Subject: Re: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-11-09 06:30:00 PDT


Dear paulslonaker,

Get a life

- giger80




From: paulslonaker
To: giger80
Subject: paulslonaker has sent a question about item #120473031371, ending on Oct-14-09 14:57:40 PDT - 2002 Baja Outlaw 25' SST 496 Mag H.O. Loaded Out 240hrs
Sent Date: Oct-10-09 22:00:36 PDT


Dear giger80,

No bids...wanna know why? It's because everyone that knows 25 Outlaws knows that the boat wont run that fast...unless you are pulling it on the trailer. This boat will run mid 60's...why lie...makes people wonder what else is wrong with it.

- paulslonaker


























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[SHIP4BRAINS]

it was done on the gps but by the boat speedometer. .


So the speedo is a GPS speedo?

[SHIP4BRAINS]

Popcorn is in the microwave, guys.

[Twin-Kyle]

So What do you want? A picture a video?
I don't want anything. I'm not buying the boat.









Come to think about it....YES, lets see some proof, Pictures and video of GPS speed of this stock 76 MPH 25 Outlaw.

Be good for a laugh...:24:



BTW, you never answered my question about the full money back guarantee??? Will you or won't you??? Willing to put it in a full legal binding contract?? again, I doubt it.

[3030hunter]

Pirana"s are circling. It's going to be a long winter. :24: :24:

[wooowooo]

Read the article , it does not say it is on gps, it say per boat speedometer. As far as the money back guarantee, you said you were not interested in purchasing, so what the hell does it matter to you?I don't want anything. I'm not buying the boat.









Come to think about it....YES, lets see some proof, Pictures and video of GPS speed of this stock 76 MPH 25 Outlaw.

Be good for a laugh...:24:



BTW, you never answered my question about the full money back guarantee??? Will you or won't you??? Willing to put it in a full legal binding contract?? again, I doubt it.

[SHIP4BRAINS]

Hell of a way to earn your first three TBM Forum Supporter posts!

[$hooter]

I got a great idea...WoooWooo-DoooDooo...pick any 25 outlaw that has responded to your 76 MPH 25 Outlaw and lets run em. You didnt want to run my 1989 antique baja for PINKS...how bout running another 25 Outlaw for pinks then? You make the pick and whoever the lucky winner is will run their boat against your boat...winner takes both boats. We just need a week before the race so that i can do a custom "motor" tune on which one you pick out so that we can keep up with you. It will be a "carburator" motor against a MPI motor. This is your chance to shine here...dont blow it.

[Twin-Kyle]

Read the article , it does not say it is on gps, it say per boat speedometer. As far as the money back guarantee, you said you were not interested in purchasing, so what the hell does it matter to you?

Well, along with the stretched shift cable, sounds like you need a speedometer because it is misreading high about 10 MPH!!!.

So I guess you lied again because you said the boat is PERFECT in the add. Hell, I haven't even seen the boat in person and I already found 3 things wrong with it. I'm betting if we hooked up a scan tool to the computer, we'll find something else.

Someone who is interested in your boat at some point will find this forum and probably find this thread and I hope they do because I hate to see someone get screwed. That's why it matters to me.

[wooowooo]

Speedometer may be off, I know it hit 76mph, so I tell you what, instead of being a straight up a$$hole, why don't you take into consideration it may be possible, I never said it did that on gps.:thefinger Well, along with the stretched shift cable, sounds like you need a speedometer because it is misreading high about 10 MPH!!!.

So I guess you lied again because you said the boat is PERFECT in the add. Hell, I haven't even seen the boat in person and I already found 3 things wrong with it. I'm betting if we hooked up a scan tool to the computer, we'll find something else.

Someone who is interested in your boat at some point will find this forum and probably find this thread and I hope they do because I hate to see someone get screwed. That's why it matters to me.

[wooowooo]

Man, I am tired of dealing with you, kiss my a$$. :ass1: I got a great idea...WoooWooo-DoooDooo...pick any 25 outlaw that has responded to your 76 MPH 25 Outlaw and lets run em. You didnt want to run my 1989 antique baja for PINKS...how bout running another 25 Outlaw for pinks then? You make the pick and whoever the lucky winner is will run their boat against your boat...winner takes both boats. We just need a week before the race so that i can do a custom "motor" tune on which one you pick out so that we can keep up with you. It will be a "carburator" motor against a MPI motor. This is your chance to shine here...dont blow it.

[SHIP4BRAINS]

:yahoo: http://i37.tinypic.com/28chim0.jpg


Sorry..this shit makes me laugh.

[Twin-Kyle]

Telling $hooter to kiss you a$$, man you have no idea who you are screwing with:rofl:

Speedometer may be off,
Yep. Thats not all thats off...:ecomcity:

I know it hit 76mph
Yea..in your dreams, then you woke up, or maybe not...:yawning:


so I tell you what, instead of being a straight up a$$hole, why don't you take into consideration it may be possible
I'm calling you out on your bullsh-t add and you call ME an a$$hole. what a tool..cough up the proof and I will back off.
I will never take it into consideration because it isn't possible in stock form. It is completely obvious you have no clue about your oun boat. Every time you speek, you look more like a jacka$$ and complete moron so just keep going... its kinda funny.

Oh BTW...Back at you fool:thefinger

[3030hunter]

I need another beer. :dancing:

[Twin-Kyle]

I need another beer. :dancing:
WOOOWOOO needs a shot of reality...:cwm27:

[anchorman]

Damn guys is it winter already. So the guy has "marked up his add" We all know that boat wont do 76 in stock form. We all know that 99% of the folks place their add that the boat is perfect(there not). SO BFD I have seen an artilce that states my specific boat will do triple digits. I didnt harrass the author of the article and tell him he was nuts. This is the shit that I dislike about this and other sites. I know if I dont like it dont read it. Take this any way you want. EBAY has become what everyone didnt want it to become. That in fact is capitalism at its best. Everyone has a buddy that is bid rigging now on high dollar items. I have had others on this site ask me to do it for them. Enough from me. Lets move on. Looks like you guys all got Blake some cash bad mouthing this guy too:24: :24: Hell now the seller will want more money for the friggin boat.

[Twin-Kyle]

Damn guys is it winter already. So the guy has "marked up his add" We all know that boat wont do 76 in stock form. We all know that 99% of the folks place their add that the boat is perfect(there not). SO BFD I have seen an artilce that states my specific boat will do triple digits. I didnt harrass the author of the article and tell him he was nuts. This is the shit that I dislike about this and other sites. I know if I dont like it dont read it. Take this any way you want. EBAY has become what everyone didnt want it to become. That in fact is capitalism at its best. Everyone has a buddy that is bid rigging now on high dollar items. I have had others on this site ask me to do it for them. Enough from me. Lets move on. Looks like you guys all got Blake some cash bad mouthing this guy too:24: :24: Hell now the seller will want more money for the friggin boat.
I normally don't get involved but this just rubbed me the wrong way. The one who buys it on WOOOWOOO word about 76MPH will be disappointed, ask him for an explanation and WOOOWOOO will avoid him like the plague. The buyer will join this site looking for answers and around the circle we go.
Nip it in the bud now I say...

[anchorman]

I normally don't get involved but this just rubbed me the wrong way. The one who buys it on WOOOWOOO word about 76MPH will be disappointed, ask him for an explanation and WOOOWOOO will avoid him like the plague. The buyer will join this site looking for answers and around the circle we go.
Nip it in the bud now I say...

I understand but if a new baja buyer were to do just a little research the would find that the ad is BS that is why we all say get a survey and ..... So the guy is an ass when he responds I have met too many asses in my day and just dont go back.

[jimrik]

What would be the best OIL to run in that Outlaw. :wavetowel

[3030hunter]

Mercruiser 25-40. :24:

[jimrik]

Dammit I was all about AMSOIL :24: :24:

[Wayne Pennell]

That is what I was trying to get at without insulting you. I think yours should be a tad faster. If you do plugs, also do wires and cap as well. It can really make a difference. If it doesn't take a look at the RPM's, is it doing ok there?

Crap, I missed a little on here.

I want it to be a tad faster.....I am certain the previous has never changed the plugs, wires or cap. It still has to be all original, so that is going on 6 year old stuff. As far as props, I run a 24P Bravo 1.....62 @ 4600 RPM and a 23P Mirage +...64 @ 5000RPM. There doesnt seem to be any hesitation or missing either.

[Cop an Attitude]

Speedometer may be off, I know it hit 76mph, so I tell you what, instead of being a straight up a$$hole, why don't you take into consideration it may be possible, I never said it did that on gps.:thefinger

WoooWooo...... What you don't understand is that the people on this site look out for each other. I personally deal with LIARs every day, but I don't like people lieing to my friends, Family and people who don't knnow any better because they are new to something. So take your story to another country.......Oh, that's right TBM is every where. So keep your boat or tell the truth... Ignorance of the the LAW is know excuse..........:nono:

[bigbadcj]

Ahh woo woo is not so bad, i remember leaving the bar with him in the orange ss a decade ago. Almost broke my damn neck. Seems everything woot touches has a few extra mph. I remember he ran out of gas that day in the 25, i towed him in, thats when he hit that mph. So if were getting technical he is not lying. :headbang2. Speaking off woo woo i hit one of those green coast guard markers at damn near 90. I have a nasty green streak on my boat now. I need willis in action. A few points in the thread im not understanding. Boats in louisiana dont have pink slips. Hell if there legit louisiana boats they dont even have titles. So you would have to race for registrations. :noidea: 2nd hell i remember the dream o meter in my 20 outlaw with the 496 would like peg out then it just broke. :applse: So if your dash says it why the hell cant you list it that way. Its a grey area not a lie.

[wooowooo]

Man if you would have let me get that 525 you would had some hell of Willis credit!Ahh woo woo is not so bad, i remember leaving the bar with him in the orange ss a decade ago. Almost broke my damn neck. Seems everything woot touches has a few extra mph. I remember he ran out of gas that day in the 25, i towed him in, thats when he hit that mph. So if were getting technical he is not lying. :headbang2. Speaking off woo woo i hit one of those green coast guard markers at damn near 90. I have a nasty green streak on my boat now. I need willis in action. A few points in the thread im not understanding. Boats in louisiana dont have pink slips. Hell if there legit louisiana boats they dont even have titles. So you would have to race for registrations. :noidea: 2nd hell i remember the dream o meter in my 20 outlaw with the 496 would like peg out then it just broke. :applse: So if your dash says it why the hell cant you list it that way. Its a grey area not a lie.

[bigbadcj]

I got a great idea...WoooWooo-DoooDooo...pick any 25 outlaw that has responded to your 76 MPH 25 Outlaw and lets run em. You didnt want to run my 1989 antique baja for PINKS...how bout running another 25 Outlaw for pinks then? You make the pick and whoever the lucky winner is will run their boat against your boat...winner takes both boats. We just need a week before the race so that i can do a custom "motor" tune on which one you pick out so that we can keep up with you. It will be a "carburator" motor against a MPI motor. This is your chance to shine here...dont blow it.


I can honestly tell you thats a bad idea. As a pure neutral party. Ive heard stories and am still considering some of your 540's for my 50 hustler. Ive just seen him in this scnario before. Not to mention he is so dirty that he almost flipped my viper and hit a tree to get ahead of someone on I-20. Just so he doesnt have to shift from 2-3 he is fast. Ive seen seats curbside at the track, he studied under todd henderson. If ricky bobby was real it would be woo woo. :rolleye00

[Wayne Pennell]

Everytime I see the guys name wooowooo I think of this you tube.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79jSzKA0L8

Do you think these can be installed on a boat?

[$hooter]

I can honestly tell you thats a bad idea. As a pure neutral party. Ive heard stories and am still considering some of your 540's for my 50 hustler. Ive just seen him in this scnario before. Not to mention he is so dirty that he almost flipped my viper and hit a tree to get ahead of someone on I-20. Just so he doesnt have to shift from 2-3 he is fast. Ive seen seats curbside at the track, he studied under todd henderson. If ricky bobby was real it would be woo woo. :rolleye00

Stories??? 'bout me?????????...hmmmmmmmmm...what stories?

[T & A Near]

Anybody in there right mind would look the boat over well and test drive it before buying it - everybody knows what there boat will do for speed so why is everyone worried about it. Nobody is interested in that boat on here anyway - if they were - they would ask if anyone knows any information about the boat. I have to agree with some previous comments - everyone thinks there boat or car or what ever they own is immaculate condition - Take a good look at it before you buy it. Pictures will do wonders. By the way - why is everyone worried about a few miles per hour - If you want the miles per hour - Buy a boat that will run 100 miles per hour - Oh by the way - on a good day you might see that. Give the guy a break for trying to sell something on ebay.

[T & A Near]

Oh and by the way Wayne - your looking for 2 - 3 Mph on your boat - why don't you just spend the money and buy one of shooters motor so that you will know you will get it. Alot of money can be invested in extension boxes and props for 2 - 3 mph.

[Wayne Pennell]

Oh and by the way Wayne - your looking for 2 - 3 Mph on your boat - why don't you just spend the money and buy one of shooters motor so that you will know you will get it. Alot of money can be invested in extension boxes and props for 2 - 3 mph.

I wish I could, believe me I wish I could.....I'm not quite sure the lady friend with quite approve of the $15K investment although I really want it!! The $5-6K ext box/shorty and $3K CMI's are in the deck this year. I am holding out till I get back from next deployment to add the Raylar when the engine has closer to 300-400 hours on it than now.

Didn't want to come off the wrong way on the initial post.

[protechx2]

:smarty: :smarty: Damn you guys are making me miss my slow ass 25!:headbang2

[emilsr]

I wish I could, believe me I wish I could.....I'm not quite sure the lady friend with quite approve of the $15K investment although I really want it!! The $5-6K ext box/shorty and $3K CMI's are in the deck this year. I am holding out till I get back from next deployment to add the Raylar when the engine has closer to 300-400 hours on it than now.



Hmmmmmm.....

Let's just say $hooter would build you a bullet for $15k; subtract $6k for the box/shorty and $3k for the CMI's and you're at $6k. Surely you could sell your old motor for that and break even. Your only out of pocket expense would be the steering so you'd be out what....maybe 3 grand? Bottom line is you'd SAVE $5-6k by doing it this way, PLUS the cost of the Raylar upgrade (another $7k) so the net result would be $13k in the bank. How could you afford NOT to???? :headbang2

If I were spending your money that's what I'd do, or at least that's the logic I'd use on the wife. :24:

[T & A Near]

I would have to agree - wait too spend a little more money up front and sell what you pulled out of the boat to get some money back in the end. You can spend alot of money trying to improve your boat speed and will not always be happy.

[kyle.malone]

[QUOTE=bigbadcj]Speaking off woo woo i hit one of those green coast guard markers at damn near 90. QUOTE]

Sorry to bring this back, but a 40 going "damn near 90"??

[bajabob 600]

Crap, I missed a little on here.

I want it to be a tad faster.....I am certain the previous has never changed the plugs, wires or cap. It still has to be all original, so that is going on 6 year old stuff. As far as props, I run a 24P Bravo 1.....62 @ 4600 RPM and a 23P Mirage +...64 @ 5000RPM. There doesnt seem to be any hesitation or missing either.YOUR BOAT IS WITH THAT POWER IS DOING THE RIGTH SPEEDTHERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE GETTING ANY MORE SPEED BY CHANGING YOUR DRIVE ,PROP EX BOX WITH STOCK POWER . THAT BOAT NEEDS A 540 CUBE MOTOR WITH 600PONYS OR MORE . PERFORMANCE BOATING MAG. BOB TEAGUE MARINE PUT A 500HP MERCRUISER MOTOR IN YOUR BOAT . IT HAS A 23MIRAGE PROP TOP SPEED 68 MPH AT 5100RPM . NOW I HAVE A BUDDY HAS YOUR BOAT WITH A 525 MERC AND HE RUNS 75MPH. MY BOAT IS 24 BAJA LAST YEAR I HAD 540CUBE 624HP ON DYNO RUNNIG IN LOW 80MPH ON GPS . HERE THE BOTTOM LINE PUT A BIG MOTOR IN YOUR BOAT ,THEN GO FROM THERE IF YOU WT TO GO FAST NOW ABOUT WOO WOOOO HE IS TRYING TO SELL HIS BOAT AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT FAST .WELL THAT A JOKE THAT BOAT WILL DO THAT SPEED WITH STOCK POWER :24: WHEN SOME ONE TEST WOOO WOOO BOAT HE WILL FIND OUT WT THE BOAT WILL DO ! JUST HOPE HE DOES HIS HOME WORK ON BAJA. BRING A HAND HELD GPS

[$hooter]

YOUR BOAT IS WITH THAT POWER IS DOING THE RIGTH SPEEDTHERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE GETTING ANY MORE SPEED BY CHANGING YOUR DRIVE ,PROP EX BOX WITH STOCK POWER . THAT BOAT NEEDS A 540 CUBE MOTOR WITH 600PONYS OR MORE . PERFORMANCE BOATING MAG. BOB TEAGUE MARINE PUT A 500HP MERCRUISER MOTOR IN YOUR BOAT . IT HAS A 23MIRAGE PROP TOP SPEED 68 MPH AT 5100RPM . NOW I HAVE A BUDDY HAS YOUR BOAT WITH A 525 MERC AND HE RUNS 75MPH. MY BOAT IS 24 BAJA LAST YEAR I HAD 540CUBE 624HP ON DYNO RUNNIG IN LOW 80MPH ON GPS . HERE THE BOTTOM LINE PUT A BIG MOTOR IN YOUR BOAT ,THEN GO FROM THERE IF YOU WT TO GO FAST NOW ABOUT WOO WOOOO HE IS TRYING TO SELL HIS BOAT AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT FAST .WELL THAT A JOKE THAT BOAT WILL DO THAT SPEED WITH STOCK POWER :24: WHEN SOME ONE TEST WOOO WOOO BOAT HE WILL FIND OUT WT THE BOAT WILL DO ! JUST HOPE HE DOES HIS HOME WORK ON BAJA. BRING A HAND HELD GPS


Yes...absolutely...and bring a large tube of KY Jelly.

[bigbadcj]

[QUOTE=bigbadcj]Speaking off woo woo i hit one of those green coast guard markers at damn near 90. QUOTE]

Sorry to bring this back, but a 40 going "damn near 90"??


Id hope shes cruising that this year. Those big nasty blower motors x3 cough cough. I always feel like such a ahole when i hit that 3rd key ;)